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When pro-lifers argue “It’s not your body!” or “Newborns depend on others to take care of them, too!” I’m just like…it’s inside your body?? Like you’re the only person who can keep it alive?? Like that is how pregnancy works, right?
Not trying to start an argument over this, but I did some research on abortion for a paper on school. Specifically how early important organs are developed and how early it can survive on its own. Basically, it was asking the question, “when does a fetus become an infant?”. I can’t remember the exact times but a fetus can be removed within like 5 months, I think, and survive with the same amount of care as a premature baby. This research (and hearing a lot of arguments from both sides) really changed my ideals about abortion.
A fetus becomes an infant when it’s born. If we’re talking medical terminology, viability and gestational age are irrelevant. It’s an embryo until 8 weeks, then a fetus, then infant/neonate when it’s born.
Conservative politicians are willingly endangering their constituents over junk science and their personal religious beliefs.
I just got to the prenatal development chapter of my human anatomy textbook and realized it’s mostly a review for me.
No big deal.
They’re going to discuss the various things about pregnancy in a more medical/scientific way because the body is amazing and it is seriously COOL to see everything it can do. Here is what I’m planning:
- A post about embryology: the terms we use, fetal developmental stages, and gestational age
- A post about how a body menstruates and what happens in the body that causes the menstrual cycle
- A post about how a body senses it is pregnant and maintains that pregnancy
- A post about thins that happen to the body during a pregnancy and the common complications or symptoms people have throughout a pregnancy
- A post about common reasons why a spontaneous abortion would occur
- How our bodies make sperm and eggs
Are there any other posts ya’ll would like me to write up about the body (it doesn’t just have to be about pregnancy)?
Are you going to go into detail on the process of fertilization? I’ve wanted to know more about that for a while.
Related to menstruation and how we produce eggs - do you know details about how hormonal birth control works beyond what Planned Parenthood and the like have on it? Like, what exactly do progesterone and estrogen do to regulate ovulation? It’s been a while since my one semester of biology…
Thanks, Rabble! It’s awesome having someone around who studies medicine.
They’re not babies, they’re fetuses. They don’t have brain cells. Their lives aren’t “destroyed”. All they are is a lump of cells. There is a cutoff for when abortion is NOT allowed because that’s when they get the brain cells and start to form into an ACTUAL baby. God. All this fucking guilt tripping propaganda is making me sick.
So… no. That’s not quite right.
Pretty early on, cells differentiate into layers, form an internal space, lay down the trackwork for a spinal cord, skeleton, brain… as soon as it’s a certain size there needs to be a heart to pump oxygen and nutrients to cells, and surprisingly early there’s a brain to stimulate developing muscles to twitch, and abortion is still legal.
(The “lump of cells stage” is more of an embryo thing, less of a fetus thing, fyi.)
Abortion is theoretically protected up to 24 weeks by the Supreme Court. It is possible, though rare and unlikely, for neonates delivered at or slightly before 24 weeks to, with truly fantastic modern medical intervention, survive and finish development outside the womb, sometimes with no developmental problems.
The brain is, at that stage, still not sufficiently formed for the idea of consciousness to be entertained (by doctors or the fetus!) — this presents an interesting case and gets into the theoretical ethics of artificial wombs; these fetuses are undergoing what is normal fetal development in an outside environment. They are still pre-persons in many ways, but our definitions haven’t developed a word to describe them. It’s the sort of question that I enjoy, because it makes me think about humanity in critical ways.
Back to the topic at hand, there’s also the consideration that there isn’t really a secret wellspring of frivolous late-term abortions, especially because the later one goes the more serious a procedure it is, and the more attractive carrying the pregnancy to term may be in comparison.
Plus, consent arguments, like I’ve posted links to before.
Ooh, I hadn’t seen those first two pictures! Ta, prolongedeyecontact.
Hey, you know what’s super-violent? Like, way more violent than legal abortions performed by licensed medical professionals in a safe and sterile environment? Illegal abortions!
God, it’s hard to pick one example from that post. People are so darn creative when they have to take medical procedures into their own hands. Let’s go with the Lysol douche, shall we?
The second patient was a 26-year-old French Canadian woman, married, but separated from her husband. She was…3 1/2 months pregnant. She had used a vaginal douche of concentrated Lysol solution 25 hours before admission…On examination there was erythema of the thighs and vulva. Pieces of placental tissue were passed but the abortion remained incomplete. The day after admission renal shut-down became apparent…A full-blown picture of lower nephron nephrosis [acute renal failure] developed rapidly in this case…The patient’s condition deteriorated rapidly and she died on the sixth day in acute pulmonary edema [fluid in the lungs].
(On a side note, you can read all about how Lysol was marketed as a feminine product and a type of “Plan B,” if you will, back in the “good old days.”)
I think I’ll stick with legal abortion, thanks.
Been there, done that.
- The Visible Embryo
- UNSW Embryology
- Embryology online course
- The Multi-Dimensional Human Embryo
- Prenatal development table
- Prenatal development wiki
- The Developing Human: Clinically Oriented Embryology, 8th Edition (first chapter is viewable)
I’m informed and more prochoice than ever before. How’s the anti-science propaganda treating you?
Yeah, I wrote both of these:
…and alla these:
…so I think I’m good on the education.
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