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Pro-Choice and Pro-Voice

Posts tagged fetal development

Apr 21 '14

colbythelateone:

bebinn:

When pro-lifers argue “It’s not your body!” or “Newborns depend on others to take care of them, too!” I’m just like…it’s inside your body?? Like you’re the only person who can keep it alive?? Like that is how pregnancy works, right?

Not trying to start an argument over this, but I did some research on abortion for a paper on school. Specifically how early important organs are developed and how early it can survive on its own. Basically, it was asking the question, “when does a fetus become an infant?”. I can’t remember the exact times but a fetus can be removed within like 5 months, I think, and survive with the same amount of care as a premature baby. This research (and hearing a lot of arguments from both sides) really changed my ideals about abortion.

A fetus becomes an infant when it’s born. If we’re talking medical terminology, viability and gestational age are irrelevant. It’s an embryo until 8 weeks, then a fetus, then infant/neonate when it’s born.

Apr 8 '14
jupiter2:

How A Fetus Forms A Face

I see a sloth, a pig, and a fetus!
[Video here]

jupiter2:

How A Fetus Forms A Face

I see a sloth, a pig, and a fetus!

[Video here]

Dec 8 '13
From the Mütter Museum in Pennsylvania.

From the Mütter Museum in Pennsylvania.

(Source: nursingschooljournal)

Oct 28 '13
Aug 11 '13
"“You have a lady who ruptures her membranes — there’s no way she’s going to get to 24 weeks,” Davis says. “But just looking at her now? She has normal vitals. So what do you tell her [in a state with a 20-week ban]? ‘You have to sit in the hospital and wait until you get very sick. Then we can end the pregnancy.’
“If you did that under any other circumstance it would be wild negligence. If you had a patient that you knew was going to get an infection and did nothing, what kind of doctor would you be?”"

Fetal Pain is a Lie: How Phony Science Took Over the Abortion Debate

Conservative politicians are willingly endangering their constituents over junk science and their personal religious beliefs.

Aug 11 '13
Feb 3 '13

I just got to the prenatal development chapter of my human anatomy textbook and realized it’s mostly a review for me.

First trimester development

Second trimester development

No big deal.

Jul 25 '12
rabbleprochoice:

Oh this is going to be a fun one!
After conception, embryological cells begin differentiating into different germ lines (three to be specific) and tissues. So anti-choicers like to say that the heart of a fetus begins beating at 20 days.
And…they’re sort of right…kind of.
By 20 days, tissue that will eventually form a functional heart has formed. Heart tissue is pretty cool because it uses electric signals to beat. It’s a little more complicated than that, but that’s the gist of it. Well, this small amount of tissue can contract (because of the electrical charges present in it) which is what the anti-choicers call the “heart beat”.
But it’s not actually a heart beat. It’s just contractions from a differentiated form of cardiac tissue. The heart is nowhere near developed to even be recognized as what we would call a heart. And it’s not pumping blood yet. Which…is sort of the point of a heart beat.
Love,
Rabble
Rebloggable was requested
(Also, I think “Rabble me this” might be my favorite introduction to a question ever.)

rabbleprochoice:

Oh this is going to be a fun one!

After conception, embryological cells begin differentiating into different germ lines (three to be specific) and tissues. So anti-choicers like to say that the heart of a fetus begins beating at 20 days.

And…they’re sort of right…kind of.

By 20 days, tissue that will eventually form a functional heart has formed. Heart tissue is pretty cool because it uses electric signals to beat. It’s a little more complicated than that, but that’s the gist of it. Well, this small amount of tissue can contract (because of the electrical charges present in it) which is what the anti-choicers call the “heart beat”.

But it’s not actually a heart beat. It’s just contractions from a differentiated form of cardiac tissue. The heart is nowhere near developed to even be recognized as what we would call a heart. And it’s not pumping blood yet. Which…is sort of the point of a heart beat.

Love,

Rabble

Rebloggable was requested

(Also, I think “Rabble me this” might be my favorite introduction to a question ever.)

Jun 1 '12

I’m going to be making some posts. Thoughts?

rabbleprochoice:

They’re going to discuss the various things about pregnancy in a more medical/scientific way because the body is amazing and it is seriously COOL to see everything it can do. Here is what I’m planning:

  • A post about embryology: the terms we use, fetal developmental stages, and gestational age
  • A post about how a body menstruates and what happens in the body that causes the menstrual cycle
  • A post about how a body senses it is pregnant and maintains that pregnancy
  • A post about thins that happen to the body during a pregnancy and the common complications or symptoms people have throughout a pregnancy
  • A post about common reasons why a spontaneous abortion would occur
  • How our bodies make sperm and eggs

Are there any other posts ya’ll would like me to write up about the body (it doesn’t just have to be about pregnancy)?

Love,

Rabble

Are you going to go into detail on the process of fertilization? I’ve wanted to know more about that for a while.

Related to menstruation and how we produce eggs - do you know details about how hormonal birth control works beyond what Planned Parenthood and the like have on it? Like, what exactly do progesterone and estrogen do to regulate ovulation? It’s been a while since my one semester of biology…

Thanks, Rabble! It’s awesome having someone around who studies medicine.

Mar 22 '12
Mar 21 '12

Correcting allies’ form.

fuckyeahabortions:

courtneycoxsucker:

They’re not babies, they’re fetuses. They don’t have brain cells. Their lives aren’t “destroyed”. All they are is a lump of cells. There is a cutoff for when abortion is NOT allowed because that’s when they get the brain cells and start to form into an ACTUAL baby. God. All this fucking guilt tripping propaganda is making me sick.

So… no.  That’s not quite right.

Pretty early on, cells differentiate into layers, form an internal space, lay down the trackwork for a spinal cord, skeleton, brain… as soon as it’s a certain size there needs to be a heart to pump oxygen and nutrients to cells, and surprisingly early there’s a brain to stimulate developing muscles to twitch, and abortion is still legal.

(The “lump of cells stage” is more of an embryo thing, less of a fetus thing, fyi.)

Abortion is theoretically protected up to 24 weeks by the Supreme Court.  It is possible, though rare and unlikely, for neonates delivered at or slightly before 24 weeks to, with truly fantastic modern medical intervention, survive and finish development outside the womb, sometimes with no developmental problems.

The brain is, at that stage, still not sufficiently formed for the idea of consciousness to be entertained (by doctors or the fetus!) — this presents an interesting case and gets into the theoretical ethics of artificial wombs; these fetuses are undergoing what is normal fetal development in an outside environment.  They are still pre-persons in many ways, but our definitions haven’t developed a word to describe them.  It’s the sort of question that I enjoy, because it makes me think about humanity in critical ways.

Back to the topic at hand, there’s also the consideration that there isn’t really a secret wellspring of frivolous late-term abortions, especially because the later one goes the more serious a procedure it is, and the more attractive carrying the pregnancy to term may be in comparison.

Plus, consent arguments, like I’ve posted links to before.

Guys fetal development is cooooool.

Mar 16 '12
Mar 11 '12

I don’t think pro-choice people know exactly how violent abortion is…

prolongedeyecontact:

hannahology:

sanityscraps:

Because pills and heavy periods are so violent lolololol

Inform yourself on TEH REAL HORRORZ!!1!

Mifepristone abortion at 45 days gestation (2-3cm): 

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That’s a 6-7 week old baby!!!! ^^^

It’s.absolutely.heartless.

Ooh, I hadn’t seen those first two pictures! Ta, prolongedeyecontact.

Hey, you know what’s super-violent? Like, way more violent than legal abortions performed by licensed medical professionals in a safe and sterile environment? Illegal abortions!

God, it’s hard to pick one example from that post. People are so darn creative when they have to take medical procedures into their own hands. Let’s go with the Lysol douche, shall we?

The second patient was a 26-year-old French Canadian woman, married, but separated from her husband. She was…3 1/2 months pregnant. She had used a vaginal douche of concentrated Lysol solution 25 hours before admission…On examination there was erythema of the thighs and vulva. Pieces of placental tissue were passed but the abortion remained incomplete. The day after admission renal shut-down became apparent…A full-blown picture of lower nephron nephrosis [acute renal failure] developed rapidly in this case…The patient’s condition deteriorated rapidly and she died on the sixth day in acute pulmonary edema [fluid in the lungs].

(On a side note, you can read all about how Lysol was marketed as a feminine product and a type of “Plan B,” if you will, back in the “good old days.”)

I think I’ll stick with legal abortion, thanks.

Mar 11 '12

That awkward moment when antis tell me that if I’d just look into fetal development I’d change my mind about abortion.

prolongedeyecontact:

Been there, done that.

Embryonic/fetal development:

I’m informed and more prochoice than ever before. How’s the anti-science propaganda treating you?

Yeah, I wrote both of these:

  1. Embryonic development
  2. Fetal development (second trimester)

…and alla these:

  1. Medication Abortion
  2. …and how to take care of yourself during one
  3. Suction Aspiration
  4. Comparison of Abortion Pill and Surgical Abortion
  5. Dilation and Curettage (D&C)
  6. Dilation and Evacuation (D&E)
  7. Induction Abortion
  8. Intact Dilation and Extraction (IDX)

…so I think I’m good on the education.

Jan 29 '12