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My mother views pregnancy as beautiful since she loved her own experience. She also worked as a pre-natal nurse and witnessed all the uglyness of pregnancy. She still thinks it's a beautiful thing, but she knows it can get ugly on a whim. She never knew about pro-life and pro-choice before I told her. She's horrified at the thought of banning abortion. My mother, who saved babies for over 25 years, is pro-choice.
It’s amazing how many people in the medical profession are pro-choice.
I love the little lists these pro-lifers make, compiling pro-life doctors. There’s like…what, four or five hundred on there? Not sure. Out of how many doctors in the country? Hah.
I have spoken to a family friend who happens to be a doctor. He told me that he believes many medical professionals to be pro-choice because they have seen what can go wrong, and believe the choice is up to the person dealing with the situation. He obviously cannot speak for everyone. But I still thought it was a valid opinion.
I see a lot of pro-lifers talking about how you should never go to an OB/GYN who is not pro-life. Which is just nuts to me. Like somehow a pro-choice doctor will value a patient less than a pro-life one. I actually believe the reverse - I think the pro-life doctor will care more about the fetus, no matter what state its in, than the patient.
Pregnancy is what YOU make it. If it’s beautiful to you, fantastic. If it’s scary, that’s just as valid. No telling people how to feel just because you feel that way.
Your mom sounds awesome.
I hope to eventually become a doctor, and I am leaning towards OBGYN or neonatologist. If I am an OBGYN, I am well within my rights to refuse to perform an abortion. (Abortion and miscarriage are NOT the same thing). However, it is not my place as a professional to act with my personal beliefs in mind. If a patient wants an abortion, they will have to go somewhere else to get one but I will not go by the term “pro-life doctor”. I am pro-life, but as a doctor, my beliefs are not an aspect of patient care.
But hopefully by that time, abortion will be much more rare than it is now:)
Here’s the thing.
If an OB/GYN does not wish to perform an abortion, I am not about to try and force them. I think it is terrible decision making to go into a field knowing full-well that you’ll be put in that situation, but that is, of course, your call.
The problem I have is not necessarily that an OB/GYN would refuse to perform an abortion; the problem I have is the methods by which a pro-life OB/GYN may convince a woman to carry out a dangerous pregnancy because they do not approve of an abortion.
I think as a professional, it is the OBGYN’s job to offer the woman all of her legal options and let her take it from there.
It is terribly refreshing to see a pro-lifer acknowledge the importance of unbiased medical counseling. However, please understand that you are representing the VERY FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.
There are many, many pro-life individuals who would do anything to prevent a woman from terminating her pregnancy. This gets particularly dangerous in the medical field, as many pregnant people do not have the medical expertise to know whether their pro-life doctor is being fully honest with their possibly dangerous pregnancy. There have been situations like this, and people have died as a result.
If every pro-life OB/GYN were open to unbiased medical counseling, and able to provide a referral should the pregnant person in question want an abortion, I’d be just dandy. Unfortunately, I do not think this is a reality; nor do I think it ever will be.
Could you direct me to the sources of when women died or almost died from biased medical care? Thank you!
The most obvious one was the case of Savita Halappanavar. She died due to the pro-life views of both the country and her medical professionals.
I would also like to highlight another reblog that I’m confident you saw already:
Bear in mind that Oklahoma, (and possibly other states) has passed laws that make it legal for a doctor or other health professional to LIE to a woman if they fear she will have an abortion. For example, a doctor can say the fetus is perfectly normal when he knows it will be born with defects, or lie and say the defect is easily treatable when they know it is profoundly life-changing or lethal. They can lie to a woman about the effects to her body and her life if the pregnancy is continued. This law was REQUESTED by pro-life doctor, who wanted to avoid the professional and legal consequences of putting their own ideology above the health, life, and interests of their patient.
I should have brought this up myself but it slipped my mind. This is very true and very scary - medical professionals are now legally permitted to lie to their patients if they so choose. This is a scary advantage for pro-life OB/GYNs.
Angela Carder, Kathleen Prieskorn, “Janet,” Tumblr user kerbiemarie, Beatriz in El Salvador, Mikki Kendall, Tamesha Means, this Catholic hospital’s employee…which means there are countless others whose stories have never been publicized.
Here are links that are helpful if you need assistance prior, after, or during an abortion.
After Abortion Support
Some of these are anti-abortion. That may be what you’re looking for, but we need to make this clear before broadly recommending anything. These are support hotlines that are either pro-choice or neutral:
Some state affiliates of the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice also have All Options Clergy Counseling (example: Minnesota).
I guess I just feel weird about it, and about their motivations in becoming a midwive or an OB- I mean, if you're pro abortion, why would you help pregnant women give birth? I get them becoming an abortionist, logically, but just... I don't understand them being a midwife or OB. And it makes me so uncomfortable I can't ask mine outright where she stands, because idk how much I can trust her with my baby's life.
I completely agree with you there, and I see what you’re saying. A pro-life OB or midwife would value your baby’s life better than a pro-abortion one.
What a crock of shit.
Midwives are medical professionals and as such they have a duty to make sure the pregnant person goes through a safe birth.
A pro choice midwife would understand that this person has CHOSE to have this child, and would endeavour to make it as safe as possible.
Such outrageous bullshit, you talk. - Leigh
My mom is a pro-choice midwife.
She’s delivered thousands of babies. She has witnessed countless times how emotionally and physically challenging/exhausting it is to be pregnant for nine months and give birth. She’s been there for mental breakdowns, panic attacks, health scares, abusive relationships, extreme poverty, medical emergencies, and even deaths. That’s why she’s pro-choice. Because it’s such an intensely difficult experience for people with wanted pregnancies. Forcing someone to go through that process when they don’t even want to is BARBARIC.
I don’t usually talk about this on Tumblr, but my doctor when I was pregnant was pro-life. When my very, very wanted pregnancy ended in miscarriage, she refused to give me the necessary procedure when I was hemorrhaging because it was “too close to an abortion” for her comfort. The procedure was a d&c, which is sometimes necessary if your body has trouble, which I did, because I have a back-tilting uterus. I ended up having emergency surgery at the hands of a more competent doctor, and multiple blood transfusions. The competent doctor was close to tears when evaluating me, and kept saying “I can’t believe she let it get this bad, a few more hours of bleeding and you could have died.” What was already a terrible time for me because I was losing a baby turned into an absolute nightmare, and I almost lost my life. So even though my pregnancy didn’t end in abortion, my doctor’s pro-life level of comfort for a procedure she deemed “close to abortion” (which, it’s not, a d&c has nothing to do with abortion), was placed above my own safety. So think again if you believe a pro-life doctor will handle your pregnancy better than a pro-choice one.
Omg kerbie, that’s literally one of the most disgusting things I’ve ever heard. Did you take any legal action against this doctor? She needs to have her medical license revoked.
We’re currently still trying to take legal action. I’ve had talks with lawyers, and unfortunately I live in a very Republican state so technically what she did wasn’t illegal. That’s what is so terrifying about this. Everyone assumes if a doctor nearly kills a patient, you should be able to sue for malpractice or incompetence. But you can’t, because now doctors are under the protection of these pro-life laws popping up.
Her pro-life stance was also the cause of my miscarriage, but I can’t do anything about that either. I had a medical disorder which she tested for and then lied about the results, telling me my “pregnancy must have made it go away.” Because pregnancy is magical? I stupidly believed her because I thought, she’s a doctor, she must know better than I do. Having this disorder while pregnant can cause minor birth defects. However, untreated completely, can also cause miscarriage. In my state, it is completely legal for a doctor to lie or withhold information if it might cause the mother to seek out an abortion. Basically, she thought if I knew I had this disorder, I might get an abortion. So she lied.
I feel like I could write an entire book about everything this doctor did, which I didn’t second guess because I was naive and thought a doctor would do her job. But this is why the pro-life movement is harmful. I wanted my baby. My husband and I deliberately tried for one, upgraded to a 2 bedroom apartment, went to ultrasound appointments all excited and holding hands. All I have left are stacks of medical bills and a second bedroom, empty except for boxes of baby things, with a door that’s always shut. I don’t even know how to put into words what I went through, and every part of it was directly tied to my doctor’s political views. This could have happened to anyone. Pro-life, pro-choice. If you’re pregnant, your life is in danger, thanks to the environment of ignorance and lies their pro-“life” movement has cultivated.
For those who don’t know, doctors can lie to their pregnant patients in states with “wrongful birth laws.” Basically, they get to prioritize their ideology over doing their jobs and caring for the health of their patients.
Chelsea Clinton — pro-choice supporter, Liberal darling, and all-around rational human being — announced last week that she and her husband are expecting a child later this year.
This is the tone of some of the responses from the Right:
Way to keep it classy, Republicans. You never fail to lower the bar for yourselves at every available opportunity.
they can’t even accept someone doing what they want with their own body even if they agree on the outcome
they can’t even accept someone doing what they want with their own body even if they agree on the outcome
Greatest thing anyone has ever said in the history of ever.
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