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If you don’t believe in the sanctity of life or in the right to life (I mean, c’mon people, it’s in the fucking Declaration of Independence, for Chuck’s sake), I don’t want to be anywhere near you. Like I don’t even want to be on the same planet as you because that there is verging on psychopathic mass murderer talk.
I believe everyone has the right to their own body, and the right to choose their own reproductive paths. Comparing abortion to murder makes you a pretty scummy person, and in all honestly, if there was a way for all pro-lifers to leave this planet to live elsewhere, I’d PAY for your ticket on board.
Awfully hyperbolic for someone whose movement has shot to death 8 people and now holds the murderers up as martyrs, bombed or set fire to over 200 buildings, knowingly lies and emotionally manipulates people coming to them for help, eliminates access to general and reproductive health care for families across the country, and screams bloody murder at patients trying to get abortions, birth control, miscarriage management, or general health care.
Projection’s a sneaky thing.
I found out yesterday that my aunt volunteers at a CPC in our city. It was really hard not to say something!
I definitely think there are ways of talking about it without starting a full-blown fight, but it’s difficult. Crisis pregnancy center volunteers think they’re doing good work - and much of what they do can be good work - so challenging the harmful parts may just seem like a mean-spirited attack.
If someone in my life worked at a CPC, I’d want to find out how that center practices. What information do they provide? What services do they offer? What’s their response to someone seeking an abortion or birth control? While the majority of CPCs are deceptive and manipulative (this is according to multiple investigations by the government and independent organizations), not all of them are, and there’s no need to confront centers that simply don’t provide the full range of reproductive care. Centers that provide honest, nonjudgmental services play an important role in supporting reproductive choice.
Anyway. That’s probably not the case.
I’ve never had an encounter like this, so I don’t know what would really work to get people thinking. If they answer those questions the way I expect, I’d probably respond with, “That’s not true, though!” or “That seems kind of manipulative/dishonest.” It’s not that I want to win an argument, but that I’m genuinely concerned about the effects their practices may have on the people that visit them, their reasons for lying about abortion or birth control, and where they get their information.
Anyone who truly cares about the people they want to help would be concerned about this too, and be open to constructive criticism and suggestions for improving their work. If not, the truth is, there’s no reaching people who don’t really care.
Hope you don’t mind I used your response as a jumping-off point!
Perhaps you were not aware. Perhaps you have driven through the downtown area and seen signs but not stopped your car to hear the screaming or watched as patients and companions were chased to and from their cars. Perhaps you identify as “pro-life” and are uncomfortable facing the extremist behavior in your midst.
Today, I ask you not to look away. Today, I ask you to stand with me."
This call to action is not radical or unprecedented. I’m not asking anyone to be arrested for having an opinion. No one has to shut up or sit down - just step aside. A reasonable distance could be 8 feet or could be across the street - just far enough for a patient’s individual health care needs and life choices not to be twisted into a political display or shaming exercise.
Anti-abortion protestors threaten the health and safety of patients and clinic employees. Following #ProtectTheZone every Saturday morning will show the “pro-life” violence and intimidation so many activists would prefer to ignore. You can also look through my #harassment, #terrorism, and #but we’re not ALL like that tags for why buffer zones are so important.
Don’t wait until it’s too late. Don’t wait for another Zachary Klundt, Paul Hill, or Bobby Joe Rogers. Contact your legislators today and ask them to stand up for their constituents’ health, safety, and dignity.
wait but how did they even think you were anti-choice
I don’t know. I am truly, genuinely sorry if that anon feels misled or betrayed; I know I would be upset if I mistakenly asked someone who was anti-abortion for advice. But I have never once represented myself or this blog as anything but staunchly pro-choice and, more recently, pro-voice.
This blog exists for everyone, regardless of political or moral views. I’ve put a ridiculous amount of time and energy into this blog for the past 2 1/2 years because I wanted it to be a single place where people could find up-to-date, easy-to-understand information on politics, science, rhetoric, and activism, instead of having to scramble all over the internet trying to understand an issue. And because I love it.
So yes, I get prickly and rude sometimes (much less often than when I started), but my purpose is to educate and empower. People who want advice on supporting someone through or after a reproductive choice, people who need resources, people who need help understanding something, people who want to know what they can do to help…that’s who I’m here for.
People who harass and terrorize and shame, expect me to accept junk science and baseless accusations, care more about their image than the harm they perpetuate, push or ascribe their beliefs to perfect strangers, and celebrate the erosion of human rights and health…not so much.
One of my friends shared with me today that she got an abortion last year.(We’re both in university) It’s been over a year, and she still teared up and has regrets. She’s been in post-abortive counselling for 8 months and nearly dropped out of school because of the guilt and stress from it. I didn’t know what to say to her, except that it’s ok for her to love herself, remind her that God loves her, and that it’s ok if she forgives herself. I didn’t know what else to say-input anybody? I’m pro-life, but I didn’t want to condemn her in any sort of way, especially since I’m only the 2nd person she’s told.
It’s so, so (so so so!) important and meaningful when people can put aside their personal beliefs or politics to support a friend. Some people go their whole lives without telling anyone, so being someone a person can safely confide in is incredibly meaningful.
Honestly? Listening. Listening without judgment, without assumptions, without answers - she will find her answers in time. Pro Voice Support Blog already replied to you, and she’s a counselor with Exhale, a post-abortion talkline that works under Pro Voice principles. You can find out more about that through their blog or Exhale’s website, and their counseling guide may be helpful for you.
I talked to you about 3 years ago, someone close to me wanted to have an abortion and I didn't know how to stop her. I thought you were pro life. What happened?
Whoever you talked to, it wasn’t me. This has been a pro-choice blog since I started it in spring 2011, and I definitely would never have advised someone to prevent their friend from having an abortion. That’s just creepy.
P.S. As evidenced by my last post (as well as the entire rest of my blog), being pro-choice is pro-life!
Saturday morning, outside the EMW abortion clinic on Market Street, longtime protester Robert Calloway came to a striking realization that he may, in fact, just be a giant asshole.
“I had just followed this young woman from her car all the way to the clinic door, calling her a slut murderer who was going to burn in hell for eternity,” said Calloway. “And then this thought suddenly came into my head like a bolt of lightning: Maybe the reason I’m doing this is not out of concern for a fetus, but just because I’m a total asshole who hates women?”