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Pro-Choice and Pro-Voice

Posts tagged propaganda

Apr 15 '14

youngmarxist:

So if we have to show women what the baby looks like in their womb and tell them how the process works before allowing them to get an abortion, does that mean we should teach our soldiers about the culture of the lands we’re invading, and explain to them that the people we want them to kill have families and feel pain, just like Americans?

Apr 14 '14

thebicker:

homohustle:

glowcloud:

whythatsbullshit:

misandry-mermaid:

protego-et-servio:

my-unashamedly-antiabortion-blog:

Survivors of the Abortion Holocaust

"We are going to lay down to join our dead brothers and sisters from the womb, rather than donate this time and effort into helping the sentient and suffering."

Again, none of you were at immediate risk to be aborted. You’re not survivors.

Also, don’t you fucking dare appropriate the word ‘holocaust’ for your own selfish, ignorant “activism” you disgusting, anti-Semitic, misogynistic garbagebags.

I have a real problem with people appropriating the words “holocaust”, “slavery”, “genocide”, things like that. It’s just so disrespectful to actual survivors. 

Also, lol, nice protest. I’m sure pregnant women everywhere are seeing this and thinking “Y’know what, these morons lying down on the ground in red sheets…maybe I should listen to them”

hopefully u can all just lay there and never get up again

Open the door

Get on the floor

Everybody join the scumbag corps

Why are pro-lifers such unbelievable failures at any form of activism or awareness? If they aren’t performing some meaningless gesture they’re appropriating terms that don’t belong to them. You all should be embarrassed 

Statistically speaking, a number of those lying on the ground will someday get (or have already had) an abortion. I hope they find the strength and support they will need. I can’t imagine how hard it must be when the reality of your life conflicts with your moral values, and I mean that sincerely.

Apr 12 '14
gehayi:

3ammicrosleeps:

kaiserlouis-philipv:

seraphknights:

cultureshift:

This is the Memorial to the Missing and contains over 50,000,000 pennies to represent the lives of each American child abandoned to abortion by a society and a culture that has embraced their destruction. We must prevent the need to add to this memorial. Take a stand. Get involved.
 ”How we treat the least of us defines us.”

"should I use this $500k to help struggling parents and pregnant people or should I put it in a glass box"

How much money have you  wasted that could’ve gone to help struggling parents and pregnant women is the better question to ask.

Yeah if i was a struggling parent and I saw that “monument”, you know what I’d do? Break into that fucker and use the money to help my kid get a better life.
Clearly those “charitable” folks aren’t using it on kids that have actually been born.

A few facts that the OP neglected to mention.
a)  The glass box is on the grounds of the Mississippi Baptist Convention building—right across from the Mississippi state capitol. It was placed there deliberately to remind legislators that the Baptist Church—which is very powerful in the South—is staunchly anti-abortion.
b) This wasn’t created by regular people, charitable or otherwise. It was a deliberate and high-profile project of the Convention. Using the services of a construction company that worked free of charge, they erected the glass box in 2006, putting 47 MILLION pennies in it on the day that it opened, thus creating the illusion that many, many people had contributed.
c) Once $500K was collected—back in 2008, by the way, and the photo dates back to 2007—the money was then spent by the Convention, which invested it on a permanent endowment fund for anti-abortion causes, such as assisting with the operations of crisis pregnancy centers.
d) Almost all crisis pregnancy centers are church-sponsored and evangelical in nature.
e) Most crisis pregnancy centers have ties to evangelical maternity homes, adoption lawyers, and private adoption agencies. Any crisis that a woman coming to such a center might be facing would be irrelevant; for the purposes of the center and its affiliates, it is paramount that she have the baby. Babies, especially healthy white babies, are in high demand by would-be adoptive parents, and there is a very small supply.  There are horror stories about women who have been forced continue pregnancies and who have been forced to relinquish, most to evangelical families. Evangelical churches support and encourage this kind of thing. They figure that this way, they win twice over: they save lives AND they get to control how the next generation thinks. 
f) So, to recap.The Baptist Church underwrites the memorial (at least the first 47 million). The funds eventually go back to the Baptist Church, which invests them in businesses that will help produce more goods—babies—for other evangelical businesses, such as adoption agencies and adoption lawyers, AND that will create more religious and political support in the future.
This is NOT a memorial created by heartbroken people, OP. It’s big business. 

gehayi:

3ammicrosleeps:

kaiserlouis-philipv:

seraphknights:

cultureshift:

This is the Memorial to the Missing and contains over 50,000,000 pennies to represent the lives of each American child abandoned to abortion by a society and a culture that has embraced their destruction. We must prevent the need to add to this memorial. Take a stand. Get involved.

 ”How we treat the least of us defines us.”

"should I use this $500k to help struggling parents and pregnant people or should I put it in a glass box"

How much money have you wasted that could’ve gone to help struggling parents and pregnant women is the better question to ask.

Yeah if i was a struggling parent and I saw that “monument”, you know what I’d do? Break into that fucker and use the money to help my kid get a better life.

Clearly those “charitable” folks aren’t using it on kids that have actually been born.

A few facts that the OP neglected to mention.

a)  The glass box is on the grounds of the Mississippi Baptist Convention building—right across from the Mississippi state capitol. It was placed there deliberately to remind legislators that the Baptist Church—which is very powerful in the South—is staunchly anti-abortion.

b) This wasn’t created by regular people, charitable or otherwise. It was a deliberate and high-profile project of the Convention. Using the services of a construction company that worked free of charge, they erected the glass box in 2006, putting 47 MILLION pennies in it on the day that it opened, thus creating the illusion that many, many people had contributed.

c) Once $500K was collected—back in 2008, by the way, and the photo dates back to 2007—the money was then spent by the Convention, which invested it on a permanent endowment fund for anti-abortion causes, such as assisting with the operations of crisis pregnancy centers.

d) Almost all crisis pregnancy centers are church-sponsored and evangelical in nature.

e) Most crisis pregnancy centers have ties to evangelical maternity homes, adoption lawyers, and private adoption agencies. Any crisis that a woman coming to such a center might be facing would be irrelevant; for the purposes of the center and its affiliates, it is paramount that she have the baby. Babies, especially healthy white babies, are in high demand by would-be adoptive parents, and there is a very small supply.  There are horror stories about women who have been forced continue pregnancies and who have been forced to relinquish, most to evangelical families. Evangelical churches support and encourage this kind of thing. They figure that this way, they win twice over: they save lives AND they get to control how the next generation thinks. 

f) So, to recap.The Baptist Church underwrites the memorial (at least the first 47 million). The funds eventually go back to the Baptist Church, which invests them in businesses that will help produce more goods—babies—for other evangelical businesses, such as adoption agencies and adoption lawyers, AND that will create more religious and political support in the future.

This is NOT a memorial created by heartbroken people, OP. It’s big business. 

Apr 6 '14
rcsolstice:

Wouldn’t want kids growing up knowing that fetuses don’t have right over their bodies now would we? Gotta brainwash them early 

They’re basically saying that if you don’t drill your dogma into them from infancy, they might observe the reality of the world and people around them, think critically and empathetically, and come to their own conclusions.
Sounds about right.

rcsolstice:

Wouldn’t want kids growing up knowing that fetuses don’t have right over their bodies now would we? Gotta brainwash them early 

They’re basically saying that if you don’t drill your dogma into them from infancy, they might observe the reality of the world and people around them, think critically and empathetically, and come to their own conclusions.

Sounds about right.

(Source: faithful-in-christ)

Feb 26 '14
Jan 17 '14
"The Supreme Court has never held that a state has the power to compel a health care provider to speak, in his or her own voice, the
state’s ideological message in favor of carrying a pregnancy to term, and this Court declines to do so today."
Jan 15 '14
Sep 24 '12

Anti-Choice “Science”

If you see any abortion studies from these sources, they are likely riddled with errors (intentional or not), rendering their findings unusable. Anti-choicers will cite said articles in attempt to prove their point, but a simple search into these sources will prove their bias is simply too great, and their methodology too poor, to be accepted into any debate.

Scientists:

  • Priscilla Coleman
  • David Reardon
  • Byron Calhoun
  • Joel Brind
  • Vincent Rue
  • J.C. Willke
  • Phillip G. Ney
  • Jesse Cougle
  • Anne Speckhard

Organizations:

  • The Elliot Institute
  • WECARE
  • Breast Cancer Prevention Institute
  • Institute for Pregnancy Loss
  • The deVeber Institute for Bioethics and Social Research
  • MaterCare International (MCI)
  • The National Physicians Center for Family Resources
If the person with whom you’re arguing insists on using these sources to back up their claims, you can direct them toward this post on how to evaluate scientific studies (scroll down to the bullet points if you don’t want to read a longer explanation). In the meantime, here’s a list of reputable sources.

Reliable institutes, journals, and databases (credit to prolongedeyecontact):

Always check the authors and the institutes and organizations with which they’re associated. It’s hard to trust a member of Physicians for Life to publish unbiased articles on reproductive health. Similarly, an author associated with a Catholic university won’t necessarily put out invalid studies on abortion, but it is something to keep in mind. Lastly, check to see what degrees the authors hold, and if it’s relevant to their area of study. David Reardon got his undergrad degree in electrical engineering, which has nothing to do with abortion. His degree in biomedical ethics came from an unaccredited university with no classroom time, yet he is still one of the most prolific authors of junk science on abortion.

Sep 8 '12

Apologies in advance for the lack of gender-neutral language.

The first five minutes were the hardest to stomach. Hundreds of devastatingly ignorant, power-tripping teens, crusading against the “American Holocaust,” attend religious camps, where they fill their heads with more lies and tactics to manipulate others.

Clips of their proven-fake, gory propaganda are interspersed with an interview with Jim Buchy, a conservative Ohio representative. Buchy was a co-sponsor of the “heartbeat bill,” which would have banned abortion once the fetal heartbeat could be detected - as early as six or seven weeks into the pregnancy. Claiming he supports any legislation that aims to “reduce or eliminate abortions,” when asked if he can think of a reason why someone would want an abortion, Buchy stammers, “I don’t know - I’ve never - it’s a question I’ve never even thought about.”

His non-answer is typical of the anti-choice movement. Instead of attempting to address the circumstances that lead people to need abortions, they work to further disenfranchise those they claim to care about by further removing the choices they can safely make.

Fault Lines also interviews Troy Newman, president of the radical anti-choice terrorist group, Operation Rescue. Newman makes the anti-choice movement’s goal clear: Close the clinics that perform safe, legal abortions by any means necessary.

If we never overturn Roe v. Wade, that’s okay. As long as I can close every abortion clinic and stop every abortion, we win.

However, abortion providers know the real story:

My goal is to keep this procedure safe and legal for women, because it’s not going away. Even if we make it illegal, women will have abortions, and they will die.

Aug 23 '12

Liberals Adore Abortion

leftybegone:

In light of Missouri Rep. Todd Akin’s comments about “legitimate rape,” I want to look at those two topics, rape and abortion, rather than, as I did Tuesday, looking at Akin’s comments.

One of the holiest of sacraments to liberals is abortion. They do not simply support the freedom of choice, but specifically the choice that results in a baby being turned into merely the remains of a baby. We know they prefer abortion to birth for the following reason:

The pro-“choice” crowd never tries to encourage women to “choose” life. Instead they attack people who do try to encourage women to choose life. They also never attend pro-life rallies except to protest. And you never see signs at pro-life rallies that say, “I support being able to choose abortion, but I prefer the choice of life.” That’s because there is nobody on the pro-“choice” side who generally prefers life for the unborn. For their own unborn, perhaps. But not for others’.

Many people suggest we keep abortion legal for cases of rape—-in other words, keep between less than 1 percent and up to 5 percent of abortions legal. But if we outlaw all abortions, excepting for rape, then that means abortions committed because the mother doesn’t want to be responsible for her actions would be outlawed as well. Keeping abortion legal only for cases of rape would be the de facto position of liberals if they didn’t actually want abortions to be committed. But the pro-“choice” side does have a heavy preference for one choice: abortion. If we make abortion only legal in the case of rape, then 95 to 99 percent of abortions that happen each day will be illegal. Liberals cannot stomach the possibility of such a low abortion rate. They want abortion legal for cases of responsibility avoidance. (They loathe personal responsibility almost as much as they love the wails of the 5,000-per-day murdered unborn.)

Liberals also incorrectly frame the issue to advance this sacramental cause of theirs: They tell the public that there can only be two ways: either all abortions have to be legal and for any reason at all, or no abortions can be legal. Is this because compromise is not part of their repertoire?

You would think that the solution of outlawing all abortions except in cases of rape and endangerment of the mother’s life would appease both political parties. I know it is certainly a solution that Republicans and conservatives would gladly accept without a moment’s pause, plus it’d prevent liberals from screaming, “WHAT ABOUT IF SOMEONE GETS RAPED! YOU LIKE RAPISTS MORE THAN WOMEN!” But it is a solution that would drastically reduce abortion rates. The only reason for a liberal to oppose it is if that liberal specifically likes abortion.

And that is unfortunately the case. Liberals at heart fundamentally believe that preventing unborn babies from continuing their lives is the better choice. No other conclusion can be made. They simply adore abortion.

It’s simply bizarre that anyone could possible believe this. It really is. It just goes to show how far removed from reality so many anti-choicers are. They can’t conceive of someone who understands that their personal choice and sense of morality isn’t universal - if you support abortion, you must hate babies.

Never mind the existence of pro-choice midwives and doulas, or that 61% of people who get abortions already have very much loved and cared-for children. Never mind that I, an ardent pro-choicer, just spent three days compiling resources for low-income people who want to be parents, because I know the second most common reason for getting an abortion is financial concerns (the first, of course, being unready or unwilling to be a parent). Nope. If you don’t advocate forcing unwilling people to give birth, you must hate babies.

I do adore abortion, though. I love that birth is not mandatory. I love that we are now able to safely and legally perform one of the easiest medical procedures on earth. I love that people are able to choose whether or not they sacrifice their bodies for 9+ months to bring forth new life. I love that people can choose to wait until they are ready to parent - or choose to never parent. I love that abortion makes the choice of parenthood that much more meaningful.

(Source: leftybegone)

Aug 18 '12

FYI

It doesn’t really matter if oh-snap-pro-lifers sent any harassing messages to prochoicetruth. It doesn’t matter that they say they don’t support harassment, or that they’ve deleted their post saying that finding prochoicetruth’s name and location was awesome.

(Mostly because screenshots are forever)

What does matter is that they are part of a movement that says it’s okay, even laudable, to threaten pro-choice people, physicians, and clinic employees and volunteers. By spreading lies about the effects of abortion and deeming people who get or perform abortions baby-killers, they foster an environment of violent vigilante justice, as seen in the campaign against prochoicetruth, in the dozens of arsons and bombings of clinics, in the harassment and murder of doctors and employees, and in the stalking of children.

We can counter the toxic environment the anti-choice movement has created. We can put pressure on our representatives to stop creating anti-choice bills, and start creating bills that protect pregnant people and physicians, that support reproductive choice, families and children. We can let others know that we are there to help them access safe, legal abortion. We can educate and inform, and never stop learning. We can donate to abortion funds to ensure that no person goes without care because of the cost. We can volunteer at abortion funds and pro-choice counseling hotlines. We can be everyday reproductive justice heroes.

There are so, so many ways to help create a healthy, loving, pro-choice environment. What are you going to do?

Aug 18 '12
monotonousmoron:

This year, Virginia became the 8th state requiring a woman to get an ultrasound before having an abortion. #ProLife (Taken with Instagram)

Typical of anti-choicers not to understand or care about consent.
Typical of anti-choicers not to understand or care about the increased cost to patients and clinics, forcing clinics to cut down on non-abortion services.
Typical of anti-choicers not to understand or care about how waiting periods negatively affect people’s jobs and child care, or put people in danger from abusive partners.
Typical of anti-choicers not to understand or care about adding to the “trauma” of abortion they love to crow about.
Typical of condescending, paternalistic anti-choicers not to trust us to make our own decisions on our own time.
Oh yeah, I’m definitely feeling that pro-life love.

monotonousmoron:

This year, Virginia became the 8th state requiring a woman to get an ultrasound before having an abortion. #ProLife (Taken with Instagram)

Typical of anti-choicers not to understand or care about consent.

Typical of anti-choicers not to understand or care about the increased cost to patients and clinics, forcing clinics to cut down on non-abortion services.

Typical of anti-choicers not to understand or care about how waiting periods negatively affect people’s jobs and child care, or put people in danger from abusive partners.

Typical of anti-choicers not to understand or care about adding to the “trauma” of abortion they love to crow about.

Typical of condescending, paternalistic anti-choicers not to trust us to make our own decisions on our own time.

Oh yeah, I’m definitely feeling that pro-life love.

Aug 16 '12
prolifehypocrisy:

ghost-plot:

prolifeproblems:

Okay, I fixed it for reals this time.

Oh my God. You can’t just change people’s stories to fit your own personal needs. You can’t LITERALLY EDIT SOMEONE’S LIFE. STOP. You are out of control.
You can’t talk about respecting women when you pull this kind of shit.

This is particularly vile.

This is how the anti-choice movement works. “Real life events don’t fit my agenda? No problem, I’ll just edit them until they do! (Bonus points if my edits make no grammatical or logical sense!)”

prolifehypocrisy:

ghost-plot:

prolifeproblems:

Okay, I fixed it for reals this time.

Oh my God. You can’t just change people’s stories to fit your own personal needs. You can’t LITERALLY EDIT SOMEONE’S LIFE. STOP. You are out of control.

You can’t talk about respecting women when you pull this kind of shit.

This is particularly vile.

This is how the anti-choice movement works. “Real life events don’t fit my agenda? No problem, I’ll just edit them until they do! (Bonus points if my edits make no grammatical or logical sense!)”

Aug 15 '12
"That’s why the pro-life movement has seen so many recent successes; more and more young people are standing up because they believe they’re survivors."

What the fuck? http://jezebel.com/5932715/god-use-me-in-whatever-way-meet-the-24+year+old-whos-willing-to-die-for-the-anti+abortion-movement

I could lose the right to make my own medical choices - and save my life - because some teenagers are having emo crises?

(via vindyc)

More and more young people have been convinced they are survivors, not that they actually ARE survivors. Convinced with lies and pro-life propaganda.

Love,

Rabble

(via rabbleprochoice)

I wish these people could just keep their existential crises to themselves.

Aug 7 '12

I dislike long subject lines.

fuckyeahabortions:

advocateforlife:

Subject: An abortion can cost anywhere from around $350 to more than $1,000. In 2009, it was estimated that a total of $831 million is spent on abortions annually.

And some people have the nerve to say that abortion is not a business, and abortionists are not out to make a profit. 

I’m tempted to ask of what church you’re a member, and what their annual revenue is.

Healthcare is a business; many elements of healthcare are profit-motivated.  Of all the doctors I’ve met, the abortionists have been about as profit-minded as the pediatricians.  Of all the drug reps I’ve met, the RU-486 drug rep (they haveone) is the only one who wasn’t profit-minded.

…ditto clinic managers, clinic owners, and (in case it needed saying) nurses and other staff.  For some of them, it’s their jobto make sure the place turns a profit, but they are still motivated primarily by a desire to provide abortions the way they should be provided.

Additionally, I’m not profit-minded.

(Bad abortionists exist — if you think bringing them up will substantiate your argument, we should talk about your church.)

You know, I just love it when people demand professionals provide services for no compensation - that they should all be doing their job purely out of the goodness of their hearts. I mean, who cares if abortion providers need to pay their bills and feed their kids? Who cares that they spent roughly ten years and thousands of dollars earning their medical degree? Who cares that the blood and urine lab work, counseling, sonogram, post-op medications, anesthesia, and follow-up exam, plus the time and materials used, all cost money?

That’s not even getting to the number of clinics (including Planned Parenthood) that provide services on a sliding scale, so low-income clients can afford health care. What’s that? They’re giving patients the option to pay them less money for the same services?

You want to talk about being in it for the money? Let’s talk about doctors in hospitals paid by the procedure, instead of on salary. Let’s talk about how much it costs to actually give birth. Let’s talk about how fucking ridiculous it is to assume that every abortion provider would take a job made so dangerous for them and their families by people like you - all for the money. Let’s talk about the reasons a medical professional would willingly bear the stigma from their colleagues and their communities to provide one of the safest, most common procedures in the country.